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stork daddy fuck me harder...praise allah. forget eating your children...i'm gonna eat your pussy. 050810
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unhinged i don't know if i could deal with that voice 050810
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rickson emelianenko i'd rather see him in k1. against sapp, cabbage, goodridge. and then in k1 mma against tank and royce. 050810
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stork daddy k-1 is such a spectacle they'll probably have him facing off against robin givens. 050810
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stork daddy i'd pay good money to see him vs. genki sudo though. i don't know why...i'd like to see what it would take to ruffle genki out of his ridiculous style. plus i'm fairly confident it would end in a submission victory. but that would seem a waste of a cash-cow. i guess it'd be better putting him in against brawlers and seeing him tee off. i can almost guarantee that if he faced tank though, tank would miraculously remember his wrestling abilities. 050810
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rickson emelianenko sudo would be an interesting match. maybe gomi. or bj penn. penn has expressed some interest. but if we're pitting him against grapplers, i say go with royce, because royce has no standup, mike has no ground skills, and both men are icons past their prime. and royce is not above the k1 freakshow matchup. there's always rickson, but i doubt he'd go for this match. as for the tank matchup, assuming tank takes tyson down, i doubt he has the gas to keep him down. but yes, usually tank goes for the takedown when he's gassed or when he's losing the standup battle. i think tank would try standing with tyson first, and wouldn't survive tyson's first flurry.

either way, i'd download any tyson fight in mma or k1. 		050810
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rickson emelianenko now, some would argue that the standup skills of even a diminished tyson are enough to make him a contender in k1. see botha. i don't know if that's true, but for some reason i'd be pulling for a tyson KO no matter who he faced. 050810
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stork daddy tyson does have a sickening appeal to him. although if the same tyson that fought mcbride fought again, i don't see him being able to keep his spirit after a couple of stiff leg kicks. bj penn would be interesting i guess, but i just feel bj has too much of an edge. royce would be a good matchup. 050810
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stork daddy and as for tank keeping tyson down, i don't know if i agree with you. he got pretty disheartened being leaned on for a few rounds, i don't know how he'd recover from having tank laying on him, especially considering tyson's lack of experience in the grappling department. 050810
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rickson emelianenko i didn't see the mcbride fight, but judging from what i've read and heard, chances are tyson will never fight again. if he truly has lost his fighting spirit, then tyson will more likely do porn than kickboxing or mma and all these matches are in the realm of fantasy. in that case i'd rather penn or tank or whomever have to face tyson in his prime. i don't know, maybe the novelty of fighting in a different sport where arguably he is the best puncher would give tyson enough confidence to compete. even so, i could see tyson getting discouraged mid-match and giving up or chewing off part of his opponent's anatomy. but maybe if he were fighting mma, tyson would expect to be tied up, taken down and put on his back. or maybe not. tyson doesn't have much left. still, it would be pretty sad to see him lose to tank, and pretty lame if tank won by grinding out a decision. i have no idea why i like tyson, but i do, and so i dislike seeing him lose. which is why i haven't seen any of his matches after his second loss to holyfield.

i wonder how tyson would have done in ufc 1. i think he was in prison at the time, but if he were temporarily let out of the joint, i'd have to believe that tyson would have at least done better against royce than art jimmerson. meaning that he wouldn't tap out right after he was mounted. actually, with groin strikes and headbutts legal, tyson may have done pretty well in ufc 1. even so, i couldn't see him getting past royce, shamrock, or maybe even gordeau. but if a prime tyson were to develop takedown defense and were prepared for leg kicks, then.... this is getting a little too fantastical.

but the question of how a crosstrained pro boxer in his prime would do in mma or kickboxing is interesting. it does seem interesting to me that some of the top guys in mma are strikers who have developed good takedown defense. for instance, liddel and crocop. on that note, what's your prediction for fedor v. mirko? 		050811
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stork daddy predicting mirko v. fedor is quite a tall order, but a far more interesting speculation than mike tyson's future in fighting. i personally think that while cro-cop has very good takedown defense, his mystique has been what has kept him on his feet in so many fights. people simply are afraid of his striking and so stay outside of the range where a takedown is possible. he has also done a good job at stuffing isolated shots, but has shown a weakness for a charging attack where striking is involved. i also believe that as a striker primarily he will almost instinctively put his hands up as soon as someone throws a flurry on him. this is when a takedown is possible on him. this was barnett's strategy in a way. he pressured cro until cro had to throw something that made him vulnerable to being taken down. what you can't do with cro-cop is wait on the outside and let him pick you apart. when you throw strikes at him, he generally defends or counter strikes (although in fairness he has gotten better at doing so while keeping his distance). still i think fedor has a good chance for victory if he is able to at least get cro-cop to respect his punches standing enough to make cro-cop vulnerable to the takedown by forcing the exchange rather than letting cro-cop pick his shots and stay out of the takedown range. if he pressures cro-cop with just a clinch mentality, cro-cop will have his hands down to defend the clinch, but if he comes into the same range punching, cro-cop will likely have to cover up or counter, as fedor is very good at staying in front of his opponent and not letting them escape out to the side. i would certainly not put any money on this fight. one thing i think apparent from my prediction is that if fedor gets cro-cop down, it's likely to be the end of the fight in favor of fedor. unless cro-cop has developed some crazy ground game sinceh is last fight. the thing i like about this fight is that we know how cro-cop will end it. but we never know how fedor will end it. 050811
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rickson emelianenko I agree with much of what you say. Fedor doesn’t shoot for the kind of single and double leg takedowns that Mirko so adeptly stuffs. He usually uses upper body throws set up by a flurry of punches. But I think this was the strategy that Aleks attempted. It appeared to me that Aleks was trying to set up an upper body throw with punches. Of course, Fedor is presumably a better Sambo artist than Aleks, and perhaps Aleks only half-heartedly went for the takedown and made the mistake of thinking he could stand with Mirko. Then again, Aleks, as Fedor’s brother and training partner, is probably the closest approximation to Fedor that CroCop has faced in an opponent. And while Aleks is arguably a less skilled grappler than Fedor, he is bigger and appears to have better overall boxing.

Also, I’m not so sure the fight will be over if Fedor takes CroCop down. I think that as hard as CroCop is to take down, he may be even more difficult to keep down. Waterman, for instance, got the takedown right away but couldn’t keep Mirko down. I don’t think that Mirko has developed an insane ground game, but I think he’s probably improved his defense from bottom guard: tying up his attacker, frustrating offense, stalling to get stood up, and scrambling to his feet. I think it would be very discouraging to Fedor to work hard to take CroCop down, perhaps eating a few stiff shots going into the clinch, only to fail to land any hard offense. Anyway, CroCop has not been taken down much recently. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened in the Barnett fight had Barnett not dislocated his shoulder.

Many people predict that if Fedor gets CroCop down, he’ll end him with brutal ground and pound. But I don’t see any precedent for that prediction. Fedor has primarily used effective ground and pound against opponents who fight offensively from their backs. Fedor employed brutal ground and pound against Nogueira each time they met, but Minotauro was constantly trying to submit Fedor from bottom guard. In fact, that was the only way Nogueira could have beaten Fedor. And working for submissions from the bottom left Nogueira open to attack. Mirko doesn’t have to worry about fighting offensively from his back. So, for instance, Fedor couldn’t land that jumping bomb into open guard on Mirko, because as soon as Fedor backed off and gave CroCop room, Mirko would more likely push off and stand up than lay and wait for Fedor to attack.
Similarly, Fedor recently mauled Kohsaka with ground and pound, but again, Kohsaka was trying to submit Fedor from bottom guard. Fedor’s ground and pound is brutally effective against guys who are actively trying to submit him, but is not necessarily similarly effective against guys who are trying to tie him up, defend, survive and wait to be stood up. One example of this would be Fedor’s fight against Schilt—a boring fight but very educational. Semmy has no hope of submitting Fedor, so he ties him up waiting to be stood up. And that’s how the whole fight goes. Fedor takes Semmy down, Semmy ties Fedor up, they get stood up, repeat.

Also, I can’t help but think that perhaps Fedor has been a little lucky a few times in his career, and that has contributed to his aura of invincibility. For instance, if Randleman started kneeing Fedor after he slammed Fedor instead of waiting to be submitted, or perhaps if Herring got Fedor into north-south position earlier in the round, Fedor might have 2 losses on his record instead of wins.

I want Fedor to win, but I have a feeling that CroCop will win. But I hope I’m wrong. 		050811
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stork daddy i agree with you that fedor benefitted from randleman's lack of presence of mind after that huge takedown. however, the fact that he was able to immediately reverse an experienced wrestler like randleman from a pinned position is what i think really contributed to his aura of invulnerability. especially coming off of a huge throw like that. i think the schilt fight isn't a real valuable example of fedor's weaknesses though because schilt has such extraordinarily long arms and insane grip strength. i don't think cro-cop will quite succeed in tying up his arms like schilt did. while i also have a sickening feeling that fedor might lose, if i absolutely had to bet money on it, i'd still go with fedor. it certainly is a close fight. i really think the one thing that aleks lacked that fedor has is confidence and a gameplan. aleks often looks like he's looking for his opponents weaknesses as they fight. fedor comes in with seemingly consistent strategy and makes weaknesses in his opponent. i do agree though that aleks was the closest simulation to a cro-cop fedor fight we've yet to see. i just feel that fedor is better at mixing the takedown game with the striking game than aleks might yet be. he seems to transition more awkwardly than fedor. either way i'm pretty amped for this fight. 050811
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"mike tyson porn" 		050812
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. Good point about Schilt's long limbs and grip. Still, I can't see Mirko staying on his back if he can help it. He certainly won't work for submissions from bottom guard. Thus, I don't think Fedor will be able to beat on CroCop from top guard like he did Minotauro, Kohsaka, or Herring. So I think if Fedor is going to win, it's probably going to have to be by submission. However, Fedor's recent submmission victories, while impressive, don't necessarily provide a blueprint for how Fedor might submit Mirko. For instance, Coleman was pounding on Fedor from top guard and left his arm out. Not a position Crocop is likely to find himself in, or at least not for very long. Also, Coleman has pretty suspect sub defense. Same with Randleman. Fedor's victory over Ogawa is similarly unhelpful. Fedor overwhelmed Ogawa with strikes before mounting him. The submission victory over Fujita was similar--Fedor set him up with the liver kick. I don't think it is likely that Fedor will overwhelm CroCop with strikes to set up the submission. So it's just sort of hard for me to imagine exactly how Fedor will win, if he does. Of course, as you said, Fedor is versatile, unpredictable, and seems to strategize effectively. Also, he apparently has very high in-ring intelligence, and is able to turn bad situations around. Also, he has never been defeated, and I can't imagine him giving up, even after taking Mirko's hardest shots. If Mirko wins, he will have to knock Fedor out or daze him badly and get a ref stoppage. I doubt Fedor would give up like Coleman, Waterman, and Magomedov apparently did, when they were down and hurt but not knocked out. Anyway, I can't wait for this fight.

Also, I say Overeem wins the GP with two more gillotines. 		050813
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stork daddy well that's just crazy talk. two guillotines? i don't see silva getting guillotined if he makes it past arona. and if arona somehow wins i definetly don't see him getting guillotined. ko'd on the other hand. 050813
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. it may sound crazy, but assuming arona beats silva and overeem beats shogun, the gods of mma will punish arona by gillotine for rubbing sakuraba's cuts.

also, tank by ko. 		050813
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and see here how a simple mischievous line morphs into a quasi-serious dialogue conjecture about the much demonized tyson against some fighter/brawler/wrestler types.
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