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this whole debate/movement/ridiculousness makes me so angry i want to gather all of the amazing and hilarious women i know and be hilarious with them. which i plan to do, in some form.
(odd reaction? why, yes.)
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Soma
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just funny looking.
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holy smoke...! what ?? !!
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epitome of incomprehensibility
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Who said "women aren't funny?"
That's like saying fish aren't green! Some fish are green, some aren't. Some are a little bit green.
I suspect what this really means is "men are funnier than women." Are they? Where's the proof??
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that is what they mean, and it's beyond ridiculous. how is it possible to prove these things, and who's to judge who's funnier than whom?
there have been people here and there (mostly comedians) in the media these days who have said it. if you google the phrase, you'll probably find a frustrating amount of links.
it's way too ridiculous to even analyze, though that hasn't stopped me. humour is not something that is gender-dependent. the whole "movement" spawned matthew perry, to his credit, said these words:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/whitneyjefferson/matthew-perry-on-how-women-have-always-been-funny
his comments are more about how people have said women just recently became funny, but it's all apples from the same insane tree.
i do appreciate the comments this topic has spawned in certain comedians, though:
question to (female) comedian: "what's it like being a female stand-up comic?"
answer: "i don't know; i've never tried it as a man."
"most women aren't funny. some are. most men aren't funny. some are. now get the hell over it."
those are both paraphrased, and i wish i could remember who said each.
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"A little-known feminist of the seventeenth century, Poulain de la Barre, put it this way: ‘All that has been written about women by men should be suspect, for the men are at once judge and party to the lawsuit.’"
- simone_de_beauvoir, the_second_sex
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i think it is pretty ridiculous, and sexist. i have also heard it said 'women can't write'.
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(i think it is because men generally tend to deem any emotional or empathetic response as 'stupid' therefore making women inferior...mostly because they are scared and intimidated by emotional intelligence)
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in comedy there is a bunch of "reasoning" about how women don't "need" to be funny; they haven't grown up needing to impress men with humour -- especially not the attractive ones.
the fact that so many people think like this astounds me, because not only is it overgeneralizing, sexist, and inaccurate, it's completely missing the point. regardless of what circumstances or insecurities make someone feel the need to be the class clown, it doesn't don't make them funny. humour is not learned, or created; it's ingrained in personality, and, just like anything else, it can be brought out through life experiences.
a hilarious canadian stand-up comic i recently discovered writes about it all here: http://amandabrookeperrin.tumblr.com/post/25477216472/dissing-men-and-talking-about-my-period
and she sums it up best: "Do I find [stand-up comedy] harder as a female? No. Because if you are funny, you’re funny. You can’t learn how to be funny. You can learn techniques that will help you on stage or on screen, but you either have it or you don’t. It’s as simple as that."
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"especially not the attractive ones" was referring to attractive women.
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Good points...
I think, though, that humour can be "learned" through practice - such as stand-ups "testing" their new work on audiences - but then again, it's one of those things where natural talent helps. Still, it's notoriously subjective.
Also, I've concluded I need to be either prettier or funnier. I have to impress those men somehow, gosh darn it!
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i think jokes can be tested for audience reaction, but a person isn't made funnier just because their jokes work out better.
i've concluded that too, e_o_i. unfortunately though it seems we can't be both (no one said anything about sarcasm, though!).
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i google 'feminism' some days in the news, this is what just showed up:
http://forward.com/articles/166100/feminism-is-easy-comedy-is-hard/
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"...In the early 1980s, while I was reporting a story on female stand-ups for Ms. magazine, Adrianne Tolsch, the host at New York City’s Catch a Rising Star, agreed to arrange a special night of women comics at the club. There was one caveat: She told me that she would be obliged to intersperse a male act between each two women. The clear implication was that no audience could be expected to tolerate a women-only night...Kohen points out, women haven’t yet claimed comedy equality. With, for instance, just 16 women among 145 writers working for 10 late-night shows, the statistics suggest that some prejudice and obstacles remain..."
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Ellen_Degeneres has a fantastic show though. And the best part of the comedy show Wait_Wait_Don't_Tell_Me is Paula Poundstone.
doesn't believe in equality
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DeGeneres, yes. But I think the show degenerates, pardon the pun, when it's too celebrity-focused. Though I like how she ordered pizza at the last Oscars. I did watch that part.
I have to believe in inequalities when I tutor fifth-grade math. Only in the plural, though.
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i don't really find ellen that funny. but i am a teeny bit in love with her spouse.
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e_o_i
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...And I was terrible just now, because the thought flitted through my head that the men of Ylvis wouldn't be as funny as Jon Lajoie because they were just too damn good-looking. The thought didn't stay. "Trucker's Hitch" made me laugh.
Tangentially, I think it's harder to write a funny original song than a parody (I've tried both).
No double standards and no bad single standards, I say (bad single standards use bad pick-up lines.)
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