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magdalena
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Ha.
Now what?
Once we get the oil, we'll forget about Iraq.
I'll bet money on that.
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User24
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who's we?
I certainly haven't taken over any cities recently..
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magdalena
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the U.S.
Yeah, that is a good point.
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Aimee
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this isn't really about oil... more like, the president trying to turn our attention away from the crumbling economy by attacking someone who "tried to kill [Bush's] dad". As long as he could come up with a noble reason to attack; ie:he's going to kill all his people with biological weapons, and once he's done with them he's going to kill the US. Now, if Saddam is/was a dictator, why would he kill his own people? He needs those people to actually BE a dictator. But I digress.. all bush needs is a noble reason to fight, in order to get at least 50% of the population behind him on the "war in iraq" I personally think congress went way too far when they gave the president the power to declare war... once there's someone in office of an opposing party that bill will be declared unconstitutional. So we've taken over baghdad... way to go. I'm sooooo proud to be an american.
then again, I may not support this war, but I will support the troops... just not the gov't shoving orders down their throats..
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megan
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most of the troops fighting support the war (people who sign up to be soldiers tend to know that they are going to kill and be killed). that is the whole purpose of the army/navy/marines/etc.
do you see the looks on those iraqi's faces?? they're happy! happy is good!
these people have been oppressed for a long time, any study of history will tell you that. maybe some of us don't like war, but at least admit that it's necessary to reason with unreasonable people.
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magdalena
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oh god, so what.
Yay they are freed. Good.
But that's not the point, that's not what I am upset about. It's just that the ONLY fucking reason we are over there is to divy up the oil reserves.
Well, not the *only* reason.
I feel like this whole thing is staged, I don't know why. Just seems kinda "fake"
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magdalena
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about half sign up knowing that.
The rest go into it because it'll pay for college and it looks good on a resume, trust me , I'm guilty of that.
( I also did it for the disipline.)
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minnesota_chris
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and spelling too I suppose.
As Tom Friedman in the New York Times put it, anything bad that happens, from now on, is our fault. No water? Our fault. Fighting? Our fault.
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They're happy to be free of Saddam now, but in the process of trying to punish Saddam for using all those weapons we helped him acquire, we (spell that Washington DC) fucked that place up REALLLL good in more ways that with just bombs. If the US and the international community don't get Iraq back on its own feet and under its own control sooner than later, they will turn on us. Afghanistan is a prime example of this. The only city in that country that is anywhere near where we would like to see it is Kabul. The rest of the place has fallen back into the kind of anarchy that gave rise to the Taliban and sheltered Osama bin Laden.
But of course, everyone's too busy cheering the fact that Saddam Hussein is no longer in charge of Iraq to remember any of that. Our leaders removed one of the monsters they created from the game, but the other one they were after is still out there.
All those people who said that protesting_the_war was a form of giving "aid and comfort" to Saddam Hussein should be lining up to shoot Donald Rumsfeld because it was his support the last time he was Secretary of Defense (back when Tricky Dick was the prez and Daddy Bush was director of the CIA) that solidified that regime when it was in its early days by providing them with funds, with diplomatic backing, and best of all... with Anthrax
Some of the Iraqi people still haven't forgotten (or forgiven) that we left a lot of people in the south near Basra with their balls in a sling when they followed Daddy Bush's advice to rise up against Saddam and he crushed the revolt at the cost of tens of thousands of lives. The US still had forces parked across the border in Kuwait and they desperately asked us for their help. But Daddy Bush left them to hang.
General "Chemical Ali" Hassan acted with our tacit approval in gassing a Kurdish town killing 5,000 people in 1988 because they were accepting aid from Iran and even though Cowboy Ronnie Ray-gun, Daddy Bush, Lt. Col. Ollie "fox news" North, and Adm. John "Total Information Awareness" Pointdexter were selling arms to the other totalitarian regime across the border in Tehran, Iran.
Knowing what they know about it from the perspective of living there, the Arab world largely distrusts us because they see us as little more than a continuation of the British colonialism of the previous two centuries. It damages this country's reputation and endangers this country and it's citizens when our own leadership blatantly defies the same international laws they claim to represent and uphold and tries to claim that diplomacy has failed when their own statements during the course of this war only prove that the use of diplomacy was at best a ruse to get the UN to rubber-stamp what little Dubya and the chicken-hawk clique at Dept of Defense had been planning for the last ten years or more.
Something to think about.
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daxle
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not in my name
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sabbie
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http://notinourname.org.au/
at the point of posting, 58383 people had registered.
dear bush, dear howard, dear blare,
if its not in our name, who are you doing this for?
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minnesota_chris
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this isn't going anywhere. And to think we're still looking for Bin Laden over in Afghanistan too.
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