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http://cow.neondragon.net/index.php/what-is-the-most-efficient-language
Hoss on 16 Sep 2008 at 9:32 pm
"Good question! Unfortunately it’s also a very difficult — and potentially even impossible — question to answer, even in theory.
While all human languages are capable of expressing essentially the same spectrum of thoughts, desires and concepts, none can be considered optimally efficient. That’s because “efficiency” is really relative to the message being conveyed and the needs of the speaker and listener.
A feature that makes an utterance more precise in one context may make it less succinct in another, for example. A feature that reduces syntactic complexity may make word order less flexible. A feature that increases grammatical flexibility may place a heavier cognitive load on the user. Each “advantage” in one context is a “liability” in another. So every language involves a set of compromises.
For a more concrete example: English is extremely rich in polysemy, which means that words often have many diverse meanings. This gives more freedom to the poet to pick words to fit the desired rhyme and meter. By contrast, Esperanto is more economical with its use of polysemy, which makes writing good poetry more difficult.
On the other hand, the English poet may have a harder time expressing her ideas concisely and unambiguously; there is much more room in English for misinterpretation. To be more clear she may need to be more wordy than she would be in Esperanto.
So what makes English more efficient than Esperanto in one sense makes it less efficient in another."
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sign language.
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minnesota_chris
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there's more to communication than speed
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unhinged
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my morning brain finds aversion to this. but my morning brain is inarticulate. efficiency is the root of all modern evil.
is not a big fan
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unhinged
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my body language at least, doesn't seem to be very efficient
perception being a big part of the language problem
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is it a good question? I mean, is it reeaally?
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z
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if the (unstated) goal is to communicate, then body language, in my opinion, is very efficient, regardless of what it is communicating.
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unhinged
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maybe it's just because i'm a contrarian in attempts to protect/hide my heart. my body language may say aloof, bristly because i'm afraid to reveal my true heart, knowing there's a good chance it will get trampled by most.
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may i suggest
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silence
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The problem with body langauge is that it is often misinterpreted. I have slender arms and cross them when cold, and usually this has no relation to whether I am interested in or open to the person I am communicating with. And when I know someone is trying to read my body language, I often like to fuck with them by sending contradictory messages.
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that's why i said sign language.
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There are many languages that are very very effective at getting the point across of what you want. But I have to say man language is the most effective. A guy can grunt and gesture with his head and get the message across in what would have taken a whole sentence in other languages. It is the most effective language in means that you can get much across by doing very little. But, its drawbacks are that Very few women can understand, or ever learn it. Meaning more than 50% of mankind would not understand..
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to the above:
woman_language is far superior.
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