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not an adjective. Thus the following phrases are abominations of grammar:
woman police officer
women vicars
woman teacher
women politician
the correct word is FEMALE.
It pisses me off something chronic when I see women/woman being abused so badly. (pun half intended)
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woman english teachers everywhere agree!
sorry, had to! XD
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heh. indeed.
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nom
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it bothers me when i say or hear people say female this or male that when it's not really needed,...i mean ultimately everything is needed,...but,..."male nurse" or "female doctor" seem so...
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i'd rather say "the prostitute guy" than "the male prostitute", just as i'll say "prostitute lady",....if i'm trying to be more detailed than just "the prostitute",..though the extra detail isn't always 'needed'. similarly when someone says "a chinese girl", or "an african american/black guy" yet doesn't say "the european girl/guy"
i'm so not awake/with it right now. my thoughts aren't well writ or placed, sorry blather.
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not to say that "female doctor" isn't totally useless,..i mean if i'm asking for a doctor and want to specify that i want to see a doctor who is female i might say "a female doctor", but to say "the female doctor" and not "the male doctor" sometimes seems so...something or other.
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likewise with the word woman/women, when it 'should' be "female",...though as i'm trying to say, "female/male" isn't always 'needed'
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blah.
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i just mean, one of my uncles is a nurse,..i don't think of him as "a male nurse",...to me he's just a nurse,..who happens to be male.
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and a lot of other things. etc.
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"Sometimes seems so...something or other."
I think the word you’re looking for is Sexist.
Why should one have to state (unless specifically asked) weather or not the doctor/teacher/nurse/mechanic/plumber is of the fe/male persuasion?
It goes for being racist as well
"Yea my African American friend Jack and I..." um WTF? Do I need to know that Jack is African American? Did I ask? How is this in any way relevant to the rest of what your saying?
But yea I completely know what your saying
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thanks,...sexist, racist, ignorant,...and other words,..just wasn't sure which ones to settle on/stop at.
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and exactly on the jack story.
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jack could be a lot of other descriptions, it's interesting/sad...
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My
clever curious considerate modest
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he is a girl
and i am a female
now piss off !
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I don't know if it is sexist as such. I mean, sure it's unnecessary.
It's not like I wouldn't find out the Jack was African if I met him.
Calling unnecessary attention to (whatever characteristic) is always redundant, but only bad if the attention is bad. i.e. if I'm a racist and you tell me he's African, or if you're racist and tell me he's African. If neither of us are racist then there's no problem except the waste of a word.
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I get a little edgy when people (and I'm not suggesting anyone here is) start suggesting we should as a matter of principle start overlooking obvious differences. I mean whether we say it or not, Jack *is* African, there's nothing anyone can do to stop me noticing that if I look at him (or that Sue is a woman, or Jeff is Ginger) and I shouldn't have to stop noticing. I just shouldn't attach any value-judgement to it.
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but to claim that if we stop making reference to these differences it will somehow mean that people will stop making value-judgements is absurd. The problem is not that we keep noticing people are men, women, African and Chinese, the problem is that some people care too much about those facts. Deal with it, don't ignore it.
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yes but there are stereotypes, there are cultural differences (manmade as they are) and so by saying Jack is african there is perhaps a greater understanding to the story; one can visualize jack better in their minds as the story is being told, eh?
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true, but if it's not relevant then it's not relevant; why not tell us that Jack has a ford, or plays snooker on fridays and hates losing...
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