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wittgenstein
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u24
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any thoughts appreciated, especially on philosophical investigations and phil of lang in general.
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051005
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anne-girl
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i downloaded something by him once off gutenberg, and was going to read it, but didn't
i think making things easy to get kind of devalues them... download, sync to pda, done and done in five minutes and forget about it in another two
(just a tangential thought)
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jane
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reminds me of mike. girl on the subway came up to him & asked him out. later sinan said it was probably the wittgenstein book.
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051005
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u24
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the "philosophical investigations" are good, imho. also the blue and brown books, but I haven't read them as thoroughly.
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051108
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ahem.
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i really should read what i've already written....
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u24
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finished my essay on him; see it at puremango.co.uk/wittgenstein_meaning_and_use.pdf
any comments gratefully received.
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Piso Mojado
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(what i know in summary of jacob needleman's interpretation)
let go of language- it won't help you access Reality
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051120
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Piso Mojado
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language once had a purpose- to help us access the infinite/eros/true reality- but now it is an empty shell
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051120
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Piso Mojado
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damn, that is quite an essay!
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051120
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u24
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what mine? i was pretty pleased with it :-)
I'm doing one on Private Language soon.
The thought is that if there was a man on a desert island, who had never ever encountered other people (or animals, let's say) he wouldn't have any kind of language. that is to say, language is a social creation. I'm probably going to argue that we do have a private, inner language, but that it bears so little resemblance to anything we know as langauge that it tends to make philosophers think that we don't/can't have private language. I.e., there is something behind our words (=thoughts), but it's not a 'language' as such.
or something. :-)
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u24
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language tries to model reality. it probably fails.
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Ouroboros
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if inner thought/intrapersonal communication is not 'language'
what is it?
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060714
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Ouroboros
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came up again in conversation
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060801
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u24
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considering that it's the module I got my lowest ever mark on, he's had a bloody big influence on my thinking
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somebody
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i use an inner language that has been in continual development as long as i can remember (approaching three decades). the language is not english and does not resemble english nor is it structured remotely like english; i've seldom attempted to apply phoenetics to it. i'm not sure i could teach it to someone if i tried.
that said, i cannot pretend as if being an english speaker/listener/reader/writer has not influenced the language in myriad ways, for it surely has done so more than the private language has influenced my use of the public ones.
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