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unhinged 'in the old testament biblical tradition you have the most ruthless patriarchal accent of any tradition i know. as i've shown, there is no goddess there at all. the goddess herself ( inanna and astarte and ishtar and the others) is actually called the abomination. here is an absolutely masculine-oriented mythology in which you don't have the idea of an incarnation of the divine. the hebrew idea of the messiah is not as the son of god but as a human being of such majesty and form that he is worthy to be called the son of god; you don't have this literal, classical virgin-birth motif, which is actually repulsive to the whole old testament tradition. there, the goddess is out.

what happens in the christian tradition is that paul turns it over to the world of the greeks. paul himself wrote greek elegantly and he bridged the two worlds of the synagogue and of athens. the goddess comes in with the virgin as the mother of god. the last two thousand years have seen a gradual ascent of the virgin to being pretty nearly in line of a goddess. she is now even called co-savior in her anguish and suffering, which was as great as the suffering of her son. she also brought him into the world, and her submission to the annunciation amounts to an act of salvation, because she acquiesced to this saviorhood.

even so, the church very carefully distinguishes between the worship of god and the veneration of the virgin. she is still human, yet in the fact that she is human and achieved such sublime realization, she actually represents a higher bodhisattva symbol than the divine christ himself. so she's getting there, my friends, and it's the old goddess right back again - you can't keep her down.'

- joseph Campbell


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epitome of incomprehensibility Not a goddess, but Miriam the music composer definitely figures in the world(s) I'm creating.

Mri in the fantasy one, another Miriam in the "realistic" one.

But that is like Mary too. Name has the same (bitter?) root.

Anyway, this isn't about MY writing (eh, maybe I am the goddess in that case. The Mundane Feminine.)

Okay, ANYWAY anyway, my 11th-grade class did a unit related to Joseph Campbell's idea of myth. Which isn't the only one, but it is nice to have a storytelling framework centered around a quest model rather than a conflict one.
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e_o_i Virgin mother could be collapse of two ancient goddess figures representing life cycles.

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maiden-mother-crone to get Trinitarian and all

Can't have cake and eat it too, generally (virgin mother for realsies? not with humans, except with tech).

But also that the Catholic hierarchy tends to be very strict about reproduction in a way that isn't very women's-freedom-friendly.

Not actual Catholics that I know, for the most part. But the leadership, yes.
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