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u24	I had written this under pictures_of_blatherskites but I don't want to go offtopic in that blathe. Look, I'm still defaulting to ignoring you. selectively unignoring when I want to. If the copypasta you'd posted under 'zeke' had been on any other page I wouldn't really have given a crap. blather is blather, do what you like. You have the freedom to be a dick. We've all written shit somewhere on blather. But you've effectively defaced zeke's profile page and freedom or no, there's no excuse for such rudeness. It's disgraceful. There's an implied etiquette for those pages, whether you see it or not. The ethic I try to stick to is "an it harm none do what you will". you harmed. words have caused people to committ suicide in the past, so don't claim they're "just silly harmless little words". words have extraordinary power and you know it. Yep. I'm chiding you for breaching my code of ethics. I realise that I don't have the right to do that. You are, after all, technically quite correct in your assertion that you are free to do whatever you want to on blather. If you keep your shit in the general blathespace then to me that's hunky dory. it's pretty much fair game. but please, in order to make blather a nicer place to exist, respect the freedom of others to carve out santuaries. there are many pages within blather that I would HATE to see ruined. For instance, I was upset when I saw that someone had (inadvertantly) stretched out 'blather' effectively making it unreadable. Similarly, pages named after skites should have a kind of sanctity about them. They should be respected. Again I say, if you'd posted it under "hey_zekey_boy" or something then I'd be ok with it. but named pages and to a lesser extent ask pages (ask_user24 for instance) I believe should be respected. You have caused damage. It is now very hard to casually browse the zeke page because it takes a damn long time to load. you've been here long enough to know better. And if it was my page, I would be gutted that, now, any time anyone goes to that page it's full of shit. If it had been some hand written diatribe then that would have been better than wikpedia copypasta. You've displayed a stunning lack of respect, hiding under the banner of freedom. you deserve neither friendship nor respect until you show that you're sorry. A good way to show it would be to email dallas@idallas.com requesting he replace what you wrote on zeke's page with the URL of the wikipedia pages. Your point would remain clear, without impinging on zeke's 'homepage' on blather. I'm sorry if you don't accept my point of view. It would be sad to see you attempt to debate minor points of meaning. I believe the gist of what I'm saying is clear.	080602
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daf	Why wouldn't I accept your point of view? It's my own..and one of the few rules I've created for myself here on blather. 1. Leave personal blathes alone. 2. Desist when asked CIVILLY (not ass kissingly...civilly) to desist. The conventions were in the way..they'd become assumed. There can be no obligations or expectations here in theory. While in practice I agree that we DO and SHOULD respect certain expectations that others have..for civility and respect..I don't feel that it does this site any big favors to allow ourselves to be lulled into feeling: "That's how blather is." or "That's how blather should be." Blather is words. Lots and lots of twisting tangling words. It's an experiment left at our mercy to see what it will, could and does become. And ohhh what my journey through this place has become. So much learned..so much expressed. So much about myself..and the people around me that I'd missed. But it's not for me to turn blather into "My Old Kentucky Home." It's got it's dark/impish side too. Several times the detractors have sought my personal blathe. And while I didn't agree with it at the time...I didn't think much of it either. This is blather. It's also to a great extent why the armchair analyses of who I am based on what I do here can be both amusing and tedious. Everyone's wrong. I flip my own personality in and out of the things I write so often around here. Role playing is just as much a part of the blather experience to me as the occasional purging. Experimenting with words, with reactions, with thoughts..exploring perceptions..humanity...feelings..this is what I do here...for 7 years now. And it's absurd to think that folks would try to pigeonhole what I'd write. "Damned if you do...and damned if you don't" they say. Write of love and unity and they'll call you a messiah wanna-be..they'll tell you to "shut up..it's been tried before." They'll ask you if you think you're special or different or something. They'll ridicule you..your beliefs that they find different. I know that now. Blather taught me. What a great learning experience that portion of my blather_lifetime that was. Speak bluntly...be rude..and they'll call you a shit_raker. And being a shit_raker is to have all of the hate and venom that the world has clasped to its bosom..spewed upon you. Perhaps you remind them of someone or something that they despise. To be a shit_raker is to attract every intellectual and pseudo intellectual within a tri_blather area to try and test their mettle. All vying for the chance to become the mighty "champion of the people and of civility." (Meanwhile those same dissect the words of "the people" in socratic boxing matches to demonstrate who the alpha brain is. It's not shit_raking then..it's intellectual_posturing.) To be a shit_raker is to have every tom, dick and harry want to "show you how it feels"..reaching into the shit_raker in themselves..because let's face it..if they didn't REALLY have that latent desire..they wouldn't. To be a shit_raker is to have every amateur psychologist in the community come to play a sort of semi-analytic semi-putting-you-in-your-place game of Freud engages subject. Blather taught me those things too. What a great learning experience that portion of my blather_lifetime that was. Be whatever you want to be is my advice to me. Because they will find a way to categorize any of us..no matter what we do. Acceptance is ALWAYS conditional it seems. (ala my faux rejection of you and nicole.) There is no peace in being what others want you to be...or behaving the way they want you to behave..or accepting norms and standards that aren't natural to your nature..or to your whims of the moment. And if you're too sentimental to handle it..then tell yourself.."fuck em." Because that might make it easier to follow your heart and express yourself freely. Being true to yourself and your visions and even your desire to bait the egos to learn how they are and what makes them tick..is much more important than pleasing the ever-fickle never satisfied people. Blather taught me that too. It taught me that flattery can get you everywhere with most people. It all depends upon how its worded. It's taught me that the only thing that people need to accept you..is acceptance. (Which is kind of a crock because it says nothing about you..only what you do for them.) It's taught me that..well I'm actually a pretty nice guy who doesn't take himself too seriously most of the time. That took awhile to understand. Took a few friends..chance encounters..kind words..took emerging from my conditioning. I learned that I'm a bit stuck on my words..on my ideas. I probably like them tooo much. Time will tell. Still, to deny what I am because it's not acceptable is to accept the conditioning of another's parents. I learned that I'm mischievously stupid in my sense of fun. (I was never like that..not since I was a kid.) Playing and crying at blather has taught me that people are sweet, but hurt. Riling em up has taught me that they are hurt...but they are strong. Empathizing with them has taught me that they are strong...but they are also tender..and often lonely. Mostly..engaging in roles..writing about things...even being real like right now..has taught me that perspectives abound. Needs abound. Desires abound..and to suppress any of them..could have meant missing out on ANY of those lessons..or a wonderful inspiration. Or perhaps even just a chance for something to be. Pretty or ugly. Happy or sad. What a great teacher blather has been. How I do love this place and the people in it. I'll miss you when you're not around u24..and enjoy your company when you are. That's all. This is blather..dear..free..unpredictable..whimsical blather. And I love it so.	080602
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They call me Truth	Daf, I know it seems as if I am determined to build "ammo against you" but i am just stubborn in my desire to understand reasons, and that is why I ask direct questions. I am a direct type of person myself and I would give you a direct question if you asked me. But I must say, this is the closest I think I have gotten to your reasons, you were direct and honest, and though it was not addressed at me ( i figure because you have already assumed the worst in my intentions) I understand it, and it makes sense...this is not to say i agree with all of it, but I felt it was direct and truthful and I like clarity, I must admit. I am going to be honest with you as well, and I feel i have hinted this at you on more than one occasion and you have probably mistook it for flattery (i only flatter when I am looking for a compliment, lol). I have been on blather for a while, but definitely not as long as you. I have changed my name once. But ever since i got here, in my "reading entire long pages" days, i have always found your words to possess some interesting and intriguing ideas, ideas that i might even say i agree with, not all, but many. I can say at least that I can understand them and the mental process behind them. And because of this I have a respect for you, that many here may not share, even as I have also read old blathes in which you antagonized people. It is your freedom to do so. But i was compelled to ask you why when you started taunting and insulting random people for being what you call pseudo-intellectuals or having ideas that you didn't agree with or just for being present, why you were engaging in that behavior. You even called my words bullshit with no provocation from myself other than questions i really wanted to know the answers to but of course it is also your freedom to believe otherwise. That greatly confused me because I had known you despite your random moments of rudeness to be a mindful and thoughtful person (forgive my assumption) and that meaning, especially in the actions of people, was important, and that you would not jeopardize your own development in the better parts of your humanity in the pursuit of fun or in the expression of freedom. Your passion when explaining the evolution of human beings had made me believe certain things about you as a person, based on your beliefs. I was trying to understand how taunting and insults was positive evolution, but i could not, so I decided to ask you what was the purpose of it. I must admit it did bother me to see you pick on people as it would if anyone else had also done so. But I apologize if I was excessive. I just didn't feel like my questions were answered. but in the pursuit of shortening this blathe i will just say that I have a better understanding now, and I see that the assumptions being formed in my mind were inaccurate.	080602
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jane	dear daf: just because you can doesn't mean you should love, jane	080602
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dafremen	agreed. but i do. sorry chicklette..not every heart's a winner in this world. i'm being pretty good now tho..well..for now.	080602