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each year 17 million people die of diseases we know how to cure
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as long as you would "make greed history" through the free exchange of ideas rather than by the imposition of fascist rules.
although, making greed history . . .
it seems like it would be physically impossible by any means if you ask me. to make greed a thing of the past through the imposition of laws would certainly result in perverse and unintended consequences of the Orwellian variety don't you think?
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if YOU don't make greed history then
WE can forget to try to make POVERTY history.
We need to create jobs in Africa not in London !
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this requires further explanation
how? by what means do YOU make greed history? how can WE make POVERTY history? do you want to effect social change and reduce greed through social pressure? do you believe in punishing those who are greedy and eliminating greed through force? is the premise of your concept even correct and if so can you explain why?
solutions do not lie within trite platitudes
now I'm such a meanie
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first you have to ask yourself (that is YOU) what do you need to make you happy ?
would you prefer the world to be in the state it is, and buy a new sports car?
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would YOU prefer to be one of the ones to make an ACTION to make the world a better place ?
it is not a matter of ideals... it is a matter of you thinking personally about what would make you a happier human being.
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do you not think it is a FORCE and a means of POWER to have billboards and tv adverts pushed in your face every minute of the day, in order for you to buy things you don't need ?
yes, it is a choise to buy these things but it is also a carefully manipulated scheme... almost like hypnosis.
people tend to follow the crowd...
follow the new fashion.. what ever that might be.
the flow has to start from somwhere and it is better we do it together.
MAKE THE NEW FASHION SOMETHING WE CAN'T BUY BUT CAN SPREAD.
simple is more intellegent than your questions.
if you want to spend your hard earned "money" on something you think makes you happy... then nobody is going to stop you, just hopefully a society that wants more than the latest gadget.
it's up to you if you want to be unfashionalble or not !
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Hmmm, I strongly disagree with the notion that advertising is being forced upon an unsuspecting populace. Are you forced to watch television? I certainly am not forced to watch TV. You said it yourself: "yes, it is a choise to buy these things . . .". Well if you are forced into something there is no choice, that is the definition of being forced to do something.
It seems to me that these days the conventional wisdom, in fact, is that advertising does try to get into the potential consumers' heads and try to manipulate, encourage, compel, or whatever term you wish to apply (along with such connotations) the consumer to purchase the goods and services advertised. If so many people are talking about it then awareness must be widespread and if so then shouldn't it be up to the individual to be responsible for themselves and be wary and take care with their own finances?
In fact I encourage more people to do as I do and do not subscribe to payed television. I don't have cable and to be honest I don't miss it much. It isn't that I can't afford it because I certainly can but I do in fact save a lot of money that way and to be honest if I did have cable television I would just be spending more time on the couch in front of the TV. Watching less TV means viewing fewer ads. Heck! If you really wanna stick it to the man then feel free to press the mute button during the commercials! Just keep in mind that those ads are paying for the programs your watching (unless your watching public television).
Now in the end I do believe myself that people should not be greedy and that they should try to live modestly for the most part. I am not very impressed with those who use conspicuous consumption in the name of ostentatiousness just to show others how wealthy they are.
Modesty and greed are subjective however and I feel that it should not be up to the government to regulate such things. I would prefer that people be free to do as they please even if it is greedy, so long as they do not violate the rights of others though force or fraud. Trying to eliminate greed through force would result in many unintended consequences and in the end it would be even more unethical than the problem it would be attempting to eliminate.
All I am saying is that if there should be a battle against greed then let in be philosophical rather than political and we should accept that in no culture will 100% of the populace adhere to one certain philosophy.
Let me ask a question of anyone who would care to answer just for the sake of amusement. If a man obtains 100 million dollars after his tax obligations (imagine what ever scenario you will, he inherited it, he won it, etcetera . . .) and he gives 90 million to charity or some good altruistic cause and then he keeps the remaining 10 million for himself to buy a nice home and live out his life in comfort and freedom is he greedy or is he generous? Would your answer change if he earned it through his business arrangements versus winning or inheriting it?
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