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national hero that people write about stuff and then include a seemingly nonchalant reference to some kind of sexual situation as though by proving how "mature" they are, to talk about that kind of thing, they really know what they are talking about?

That was a really long question.

Like when some dude writes a poem, and reads it before an audience, and maybe says the word, blowjob, (or something else thats not worth my time) and tries to play it off like he's not sitting there afterwards thinking, "Oh man I hope everyone knows how great and hip I am because I used a dirty term." All that post-modern BS. They read too much Chuck Palahniuk and they deeply admire themselves for it and they suck.
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ivyducktwilightseto In some ways I agree with you, but that is probably because I have several friends, whom I actually loathe, that read a lot of Chuck and annoy the piss out of me with their overblown egos.

But I have no problem with people casually using sexual terms and situations in conversation. I was over trying to look mature in junior high. I guess what I want to say is that it sounds as if you are jealous of the people you are speaking of and are being a bit small-minded about this.

sorry if I sound pissy or offensive, I also happen to be in a bad place right now.
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like that? this only sort of connects but i have noticed that many men in their late-teens/early-twenties will insert crass terms into otherwise interesting thoughts, as though it somehow increases the profundity of their observations (and it usually doesn't). but i haven't read this Palahniuk fellow's work so maybe thats not what you PENIS PENIS PENIS are both chatting about 060903
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cunt cunt cunt cunt cunt cunty cunty cunty cunty cunt cunt 060903
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. I was thinking precisely the same thoughts as my girl friend sucked my cock under the dinner table last night. 060904
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misstree twice. two times i've typed out long and lovely replies. to no avail.

in final act of desperate expression, i condense what i had to say as much as possible:

tyler durden should not have sounded like a yale professor. tom_robbins and ayn_rand have different voices for a reason.

the difference between "female" and "cuntwhore" is not a value judgement but a reaction in the observer, and each should be considered honestly when attempting to use.

chucky p, tank girl, and bjork have leave to be as crude as they want. especially bjork. i'd love to hear her swear up a storm.
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neesh i have to say i completely agree with what misstree wrote above, and have been inspired to re-read guts (which is on blather: guts_ ) and do a bit of blatherstalking.

and i love how innocent bjork sounds while singing about all kinds of sexual activities; it makes it all the more unexpected.
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birdmad if you don't take to that sort of thing, you'd probably do well to avoid the writings of Henry Miller... he pretty much invented the style

great torrents of existential and observational language that take sharp turns into the topic of fucking or the pursuit of a fuck

but, then again, isn't that kind of like life itself?
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Ishutan What if all life was ever meant to be about was fucking?

But yes, people that insert crass and totally nonunique sexual terms/references into their communication are wholly and utterly worthless. (Well, maybe that's going a bit too far...)

BTW, *cunt* I do not believe that "cunty" is a valid word...?
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me the word cunt rules! 061007
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I Tahiti? National Hero, perhaps what you are talking about is the sex / profanity equivalent of "Tahiti" in this lil' example...

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(setting - a 90's suburban parlor)

Sally: Do you like crumbcake?

Cercoo: Well, I used to, especially during the part of my life when I took lots of vacations to *fabulous* Tahiti.

Sally: That's nice. Did you get your hair done today?

Cercoo: Yes, and funny you should mention it, because when I once knew this *fabulous* Tahitian hair stylist who was just so special and super.

Sally: Wow. Say, can I talk to you about something personal?

Cercoo: Most surely! Why, when I used to travel regularly to *fabulous* Tahiti, I used to talk to simply *everyone* about "something personal". You should really go to Tahiti, if only you had the money, you poor thing. Then you could just talk, talk, talk away about this "something personal", or whatever you call it these days.

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Is that sufficiently analogous?
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National Hero Not quite: that is done with discretion, which can be interesting. 070413