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dafremen So..once again the federal minimum wage fails to increase and unions are mobilizing to reinvigorate their dues paying numbers, even though they are mostly impotent and unconcerned where they ARE present in union stores like Meijer and Kroger. The conditions are as bad as Wal Mart in those places; maybe worse because the union is NOT the cavalry to those who are already being under-served by their union. There is no cavalry for them. Hope is dead where the unions are fat.

A whole class of people are throwing their lives away for not enough to live on. They are being subjected to ridiculous availability requirements, mandatory overtime, fluctuating paychecks and zero..and I mean ZERO job security. That's not to mention the psychological damage and the social damage done at home and in the community by the feeling of hopelessness that these situations foster.

The same "go getters" who would argue for people rising above their circumstances in these situations, will also clamor about the tragedy of a more expensive burger. Then they'll say business people will have to lay off workers to make ends meet. Well which is it? If they pass on the cost of an increased minimum wage to the customer, why would they need to lay off workers? And if they lay off workers to avoid an increase in labor costs, why would they need to increase the cost to the consumer again? And if they'll be doing both, whose fault is that?

While we're playing the flip flopping logic game, how can a person both sneer if someone doesn't "rise above" fast food, but also want people to make fast food for them? I'm not sure who they expect to flip these imaginary, expensive, future burgers if everyone's supposed to "rise above their circumstances?" Maybe a more expensive burger flips itself? Maybe they find a burger tastier and more satisfying when they imagine it being grilled over the flames of failure? I don't know. The logic of it eludes me. But, doesn't it say something about us as human beings when we'll choose cheap burgers and miserable people over paying a little more for a burger so the people that cook them can pay their bills?

What if burger flipper just happens to be the pinnacle of a person's abilities? What if a person struggled and strove and practiced until they were no longer making friendship bracelets at the Center for the Handicapable and could finally trust themselves to hold down a job at Burger King? What if fast food was their Mt. Everest..and they made it? What about them? Do they deserve then to be undervalued as human beings AND underpaid as employees..just so we can all get cheaper burgers and fatter asses?

Is our status as the world's most obese nation REALLY that important to us?
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Lemon_Soda I'd say what it says about people in general is that they are too busy just trying to live their lives to address these issues and of the few who recognize it even fewer still have the consistent motivation, resources and political sway to change it.

I"m speaking of the majority of people, of course. Those who DO have the resources or political sway rarely have the motivation as it is directly damaging to their own way of life to allocate more resources to others.

That or the leadership is working on an unrealistic set of moral principles.
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dafremen They want us to hold their pickles. 140501
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unhinged the rich people are greedy assholes that pay the lawmakers to make laws that allow them to horde the limited resource of wealth. taxes is how the wealth of the rich is reallocated to the people that need it, but dubya gave them most of it back and now the poor are increasingly poorer.


i have worked for macys for two and a half years and i make ten dollars an hour. first they took away my commission and then they made my hours worked raises smaller and the union i pay a weeks worth of groceries to every month endorsed that bullshit contract.

ceos have america in a stranglehold to keep millions of dollars of other peoples hard work for themselves.

capitalism has failed most of us. miserably
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u24 "doesn't it say something about us as human beings when we'll choose cheap burgers and miserable people over paying a little more for a burger so the people that cook them can pay their bills?"

Love it.
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dafremen House slaves felt that other slaves were jealous of their special privileges, freedom and position. The uber-rich reward those who serve their interests loyally with money which buys special privileges, freedom and position. And if you should happen to point out to one of these contemporary house slaves how he's hurting his own people for cash..he'll just say: "Haters gonna hate." Cuz massa treat him good. 140508